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laurentbelkacem:

You can easily spot a non-Swiss picture of a Mq31/K31 by the position of its safety.

It’s really something that is bugging me. 

Do americans not put the safety in the right spot or something?

Most pictures you’ll see of a Mq/K 31 outside Switzerland will have the safety off (the ring in vertical position), when here it’s bad form to switch it off when not ready to fire (so, normally, when you’re shouldering the gun). It’s not something that awful, it’s just disturbing.

Guilty as charged.

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I will try to make a habit of doing of that in the future. I always use the safety if I am hunting or actually carrying a gun but when I am at the range or at home, I clear guns before I take pictures(and if I am not shooting them I take out the mag and clear the chamber) so I never really thought to put the safety on. I Will keep in mind from now on.

Interesting. I also do not usually engage the safety when handling cleared firearms or shooting at the range, instead leaving the action open and magazine unloaded/detached. I attribute this to how I was brought up to handle firearms e.g. treat them as if they were always loaded, do not touch the trigger until ready to fire, and leaving the action open when not in active use. I  was also taught the concept that mindful handling is the most effective safety, not just relying on a mechanical one (especially when I remember shooting my uncle’s old side-by-side shotgun with no mechanical safety).

However, when I am CCing any pistol that is not a revolver, I do always engage the safety before putting it in my holster, and if I carry a loaded rifle on a hike for whatever reason, even to just go check a target, I also engage the safety.

Honestly, it’s not that big an issue, it’s mostly an obversation about cultural differences. Like you shouldn’t really drink anything but white wine or tea with fondue (note that it’s really early in the morning, that I just woke up, so my English is probably rubbish).

In most Swiss shooting ranges (the “undynamic” ones), you have to carry your gun with chamber cleared, magazine removed, bolt open and with the safety on. This standard may seems overkill, but remember that Safety Rules weren’t widely used in Switzerland until the end of the Eighties (so a lot of seniors are still doing it “the good old way”, when NDs were common events and not the exception), that in proportion of the population, a lot of people are shooting (for sport, military obligations or recreationaly), and that you can have on the same line beginners and old geezers not knowing or caring about the rules. The negative point is it may induces some complacency with strictly “sport shooters” that don’t live with the gun, seeing it mostly as a integrated golf club.

I’m also the first to admit the safety ring on the Mq 31 isn’t the most ergonomical available – and that you should not rely on a mechanical safety, especially on a gun which is at least sixty years old to avoid accidents. Jeff Cooper’s safety rules rules.

I agree this is a very Swiss thing, and Mq 31 being a very Swiss rifle, this is something I’m aware of, especially when most pictures are made with a closed bolt. 

Where it may apply to you (or not, this is your rifles, shooting methodology and ultimately your business) is that if your gun have a safety mechanism, you probably should account on it not only when carrying and “dynamic” shooting, but also in training, for the sake of consistency.

And cerebralzero, I admire your capacity of questionning yourself.

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