A loaded Browning is the beginning of wisdom. Via @pierre_lemieux

That pistol looks vaguely like a Walther/Manurhin PP Sport, if you think about it…


I think this is the famous Maxim 08/15 machine gun from WW1.

The word 08/15 lives on as an idiom in colloquial German, 08/15 (pronounced Null-acht-fünfzehn), being used even today as an adjective to denote something totally ordinary and lacking in originality or specialness. However, this is one of several possible origins of the idiom.


SIG-Sauer P226 with steel frame. I still prefer my SIG P220 over this fat beast, even with its 9 rounds magazine versus 17 rounds of the P226 one because my pistol is far lighter, its trigger is better (but I honestly don’t know why), the handle is much more confortable for my hands (and more versatile, for friends with bigger or smaller hands than mine), it’s no less precise and it doesn’t have a stupid accessory rail.


So I’ve added now a French revolver to my collection of European guns. It’s not a Manurhin MR 73, but it’s exactly what a SIG-Sauer P220 is to a SIG P210 – an engineer creation, something rational, and probably the first vaporwave pistol, totally designed by computer : it’s a Manurhin MR 93 (so, @cerebralzero​, you were not that far of the solution).

As I told before, it can be seen as the epitome of French armory, that I-do-not-care-what-you-think-about-me-puffing-a-cloud-of-smoke-in-your-face posture that can be also found in FAMAS, MAS 49-56 or other excellent but strange, Citroën-like weapons. I tend to explain this original revolver as a gun-equivalent of the Citroën BX.

The system of interchangeable barrels and front-locking mechanism is not without reminding Dan Wesson revolvers, a lot of building technics come from the Ruger-Manurhin venture, but I was told it still got a MR 73-like barrel and cylinder. What was incredible was the manufacturing technics, allowing to produce a gun with parts so regularly and precisely made they almost didn’t need to be adjusted by hand.

The Morini grips are incredibly comfortable, they allow the shooter to point the revolver very naturally and instinctively.

Sights are very nice, big and visible. They are adjustable, which is a good point since I will mostly shoot .38 special wadcutters and only from time to time full-charge .357 magnum.

The very good point of the MR 93 is its trigger. Most Manurhin revolvers (but the MR 73) were plagued with Ruger-like triggers, very heavy and gritty. MR 93 go back to the roots of its prestigious big brother – the trigger is very, very, very nice. Is it better than my well-worn, pre-1973 Colt Cobra ? Of course not. But almost as nice. The only advantage of the Cobra over the MR 93 is its reset point, which is a bit longer on the French handgun.

It’s also not a very ordinary gun, since it was a total fail on the limited French market and killed Manurhin as a gun manufacturer.

It was too strange for revolver-guys, it was a revolver when wondernines were kings, it was too heavy and costly for a service/CCW revolver (a wooping 1200 grams empty and size between L and N-frames from Smith and Wesson ! – but that’s nice at the shooting range to absorb .357 Magnum recoil impulse), and last but not least, it was plagued with youth diseases (coming from the modulable system mostly, and ironed out with its fugly evolution, the MR 96).

I can’t find production numbers, but I would really be surprized if Manurhin managed to produce (and sell) more than one or two thousand of these strange beasts.

Some may find it ugly. I can assure you that in person, its pure computer-generated lines are very pleasing to the eye (and the hand), and it’s probably one of the classic guns of the late XXth Century.



This one is mine. The rifles cost about $300 here in the United States and the diopters are about the same price.

Nice mousqueton (and very nice picture, too) ! Was the owner’s label still under the buttplate when you got it ?

I’d like to compliment you for being the first American providing a picture of a Mq 31 with the safety ring in the correct position ;o)

On another topic, since I’m accidentally posting a lot of firearm-related content today, I’d like to announce I’ll get my new gun tomorrow. Can you guess what it will be* ?

*not a mousqueton


@latmover : nice ! your collection ? 


Feel the W+F Bern.


Beretta Jaguar / SIG P210 – two pistols as classy as effective.


so i hear the Swiss govt is telling citizens to arm up now? any truth to this? also arent you guys pretty well armed? my uncle dated a swiss women for years she was not shy around rifles


Not the government (even if a lot of antigun politicians lost their jobs at last elections) whose main occupation is to suck Europe metaphorical dick, but André Blattmann, the Chief of Armed Forces.

There are already a lot of private and militia guns in the hands of Swiss citizens, and the rights to have guns are still protected in the law (contrary to most European states, it’s a right, not a privilege) but there are a lot of dangers for Switzerland gun rights in the future :

– a lot of gun rights were lost because of the European integration (Schengen) – i.e. constitutional carry in a lot of Cantons, over-the-counter purchase of full-automatic weapons, use of silencers, shooting on public lands, etc. And against all odds, given the situation of Europe, on the verge of civil breakdown, suffering an economic shutdown and where most countries are democracies in name only… a lot of our brilliant Bernese people still believe in the European project. It’s not impossible that, if the semi-automatic weapons ban is adopted in Europe, Switzerland will follow up (with maybe exemption for active militia rifles).

– the weight of big cities (Lausanne, Geneva, Zuerich, etc.) more liberal, against the rural areas, more conservative.

– the weight of the legal alien population, barred from guns rights (this interdiction is quite stupid, but real).

– gun control is creeping through bureaucratic ways – the law protects the right for any citizen (and long-term resident) to buy a gun, provided he’s not a criminal nor have mental health problems. But guns are now registered, you have to ask for a costly permit before buying most kind of guns, CCW licences are almost impossible to obtain, we are stuck with FMJ ammos, etc. [Edit : None of these gun control measures had a positive effect on gun violence, violent crime, suicide, etc.]

– the culture of pornography of violence (very prevalent in France, for exemple, where two centuries of an incredibly strong gun culture, heritage of the revolution and dozens of wars were wiped in less than a generation and replaced by either pathologic hoplophobia or unhealthy fascination for the guns and their destruction potential) – this culture is strongly counterbalanced by the excellent gun education provided by Swiss Army, but a lot of young people just avoid to do their military times these days.

– a huge part of Swiss gun culture comes from the militia system and the integration of the military thing in the society and vice-versa. But today, a lot of citizens contest even the idea of a Swiss army (which is of course not devoid of problems, and can be a huge waste of money and time for the society in general and some individuals in particular). So this culture is strong, but fragile. Most shooting ranges are military in function. Some people are satisfied by having only their military service pistol/rifle at home. A lot of Swiss shooters are sportmen/sportwomen, and would find absolutely ridiculous the idea of using their gun in self-defense. The few civilian shooting ranges available (were you can use all kind of guns, not only the service ones) are tiny and terribly costly (think about 100 bucks for an hour of renting a lane, including ammunition) and building regulations make almost impossible to create a lot more of them.

tl;dr : yes, a lot of people have a lot of guns in Switzerland (I don’t know a lot of people that have less than ten guns at home), but our rights are under threat because a lot of citizens don’t want to exercise them (for political, ethical or just apathical reasons) or just don’t understand why they (the rights and the guns alike) are useful to safeguard Switzerland’s democracy, liberties and security of the country and its population.