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Bruegger + Thomet KH9 and P.26, both in 9×19 and using proprietary B+T magazines (natively for P.26, with an adaptator for KH9 which was designed for using Swiss MP43/44 magazines).

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Post WW2 Polish SMGs : PPS wz. 42/53, PPS wz.42, and PM wz. 41 made by the Łucznik Arms Factory in Radom. The Polish models are direct copies of the Soviet pistolet-pulemyot Shpagina and pistolet-pulemyot Sudaeva.

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Forgotten Weapons put online a nice presentation of the Volksturmgewehr this week.

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Czech “samopal” vz. 26 in 7.62 Tokarev, with the famous forward-slopped grip, showing how the Radom PM-63 Polish PDW compact is, and in the contrary what a beast the Radom PPS wz. 43/52 is. #pistolet-pulemyot

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The PM-63 RAK (short for Ręczny Automat Komandosów — “commandos’ hand-held automatic”; the abbreviation itself means crayfish in Polish).

wynfrith replied to your text post :

I loath the AK short LOP, and no precision. SNR AR would be nice but for weight a small SMG would be best for me.

Most of those SMG (apart maybe for the Steyr TMP/B&T TP9 and the CZ Skorpion – the old one, I don’t know about the new one) are gun-shaped anvils that not only outweight a lot of good carbine alternative (like the Beretta Cx4, Ruger Mini-14 or the US M1 Carbine) but even some light rifles like AR15 or AK74. For exemple, the best battle rifle of its time, MAS 49/56 weighed only 10 oz. more than its SMG binome, MAT 49.

A quality-made AKM maybe is ugly and has the ergonomics of a safe, but it is accurate enough than most people can’t exploit all its potential, at least at normal shooting distance – over 300 meters, I admit a modern rifle would be more user-friendly, but nothing than good fundamentals can’t overcome. I’m pretty sure most of the “can’t hit the broad side of a barn at 30 yards” reputation of the AKM come from the way a lot of people use it (covering behind a wall and droping mags in full auto without aiming) – the same could be told about the legend of the anemic .30 M1 (which gives your target a very pleasant massage over 100 yards, it should be classed a less lethal ammunition, or could be a good alternative to .25 ACP if you listen to some people).

Did you try the Beretta carbine ? They’re a bit costly for a plastic-gun but they are surprisingly nice to shoot. And you can adorn black fatigues and pretend being a BSG space guard 🙂

wynfrith replied to your link :

B&T P26 Submachine Gun Announced – The Firearm…

Wish I could have smg, especially German made SMG.

I didn’t tried them all, and most were in semi-auto, but I can’t think of an occurence of an SMG (German or not) that took my breath away like some modern rifles (or some nice handguns) can. I had once a full day of training with an MP5, and I hated almost every minute of it. I should have took the humble Chinese AKMS instead. But the MP5 seemed so nice and effective in all those 80′s action movies…

wynfrith replied to your link :

B&T P26 Submachine Gun Announced – The Firearm…

Wish I could have smg, especially German made SMG.

I didn’t tried them all, and most were in semi-auto, but I can’t think of an occurence of an SMG (German or not) that took my breath away like some modern rifles (or some nice handguns) can. I had once a full day of training with an MP5, and I hated almost every minute of it. I should have took the humble Chinese AKMS instead. But the MP5 seemed so nice and effective in all those 80′s action movies…